Most Christian commentators like Mr. Eliseo Soriano are surrounded by boot lickers like flies in a piece of a Butter Finger candy bar. I really don’t know the reason for this but I assume that these boot lickers have a positive effect on the commentator’s ego, that’s why he allows them to swarm around him. It’s really not hard finding boot lickers in a kennel full of fanatics.
Richard Dawkins once said that public debates only foster publicity. That’s a nice reminder but how about if these freaks are in the Internet? Do Mr. Soriano and his cahoots only utilize the Internet and blogs to gain publicity? Well it seems that way. I really don’t care if Mr. Soriano lambaste other Christians and especially the Iglesia Ni Cristo…it’s quite funny watching them throw mud at each other, but what if they began stepping on the atheist’s turf?
After giving a little piece of my mind in one of Mr. Soriano’s anti-atheist article, two of his lap dogs started to charge and believe me, their bark is worst than their bite.
First they ignored my criticism and if you will read their messages…well I think it’s more of a publicity stunt than a refutation. Hmmm... maybe you better read it yourself.
entonces27Even the English propoents of “Atheistic” or “Agnostic” movements never realize the etymological meaning of the word “god.”
Congratulations to the Brethren, once again this blogsite of Bro. Eli topped among them all - THE MOST POPUPAR WEBSITE OF THE YEAR.
Pinoy atheist? Anyway, atheism is another -ism invented by men to dissolve the truth which is borne by christianism (the christian doctrine). Atheists ostentatiously display about their so-called “scientific” knowledge. In fact, they require the christians “objective” evidence. Why should I or the brethren provide these “fools” objective evidence when we are the subject of their “mockery”? The wish of one of their atheistic comedian was granted already but not according to what he proposed. Sabi panga niya, “if there is a God… blah, blah, blah, RIP NA KASI SYA. “And another man among them already commented regarding bro. eli’s comments on Richard Dawkins.
Since estonces 27 was asking for the etymological meaning of the word god, here is it: “god” - something worthy of unfettered devotion.
Now, on the issue of popular website (do we need to include this?) FYI, the most popular website is still Google.com. In Christian website it is http://www.answersingenesis.org/ The most popular blog in 2008 is Breaking News and Opinion on The Huffington Post. Hope that settles it (For a more detailed and complete list of the Best Blogs in 2008, click HERE).
Let us do away with the trivia and tackle the other issue. The root word "ism" is not made to dissolve the truth which is borne by the word (christian-ism?). The suffix "ism" just means "a believer of a certain...whatever". The ism in atheism doesn't signify "a belief of"...the important word in atheism is the prefix "a" which means "without".
An atheist (or in your word "the fool") doesn't require believers (or theists) an objective evidence. Remember there is such a thing known as direct and indirect evidence. What we expect from a believer like you are...logical and rational facts that you can present. In fact non-believers mocks religious fanatics not because of their belief but on how they present their belief. If you will just be honest enough to admit that theism is just a belief...everything will be OK.
Again, faith is not an evidence (direct or indirect), it is an assumption.
Now about this atheist comedian (I assume you are talking about George Carlin), remember he said that it's better to worship the Sun and pray to Joe Pesci than your god because he can actually see the Sun and Joe Pesci is a good actor and "he looks like a guy who can get things done!". I think you're wrong when you say that George Carlin wish was granted when he died on June 22, 2008. On his comedy skit he said that if God is real, may he strike his audience or himself dead. Did your God granted his wish after 4 years? If so, then Carlin was right when he said that Joe Pesci is better than God because "he looks like a guy who can get things done!".
"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you."-- George Carlin
On the issue regarding Richard Dawkins. I think Prof. Dawkins is too busy on his schedule to even comment on Eliseo's rants. Prof. Dawkin is a very busy man beside he doesn't need that kind of publicity stunt as bad as Mr. Soriano needs it.
dimitrito john the atheist:
did you fully comprehend mr. jun paras’ comments? what evidence do you want? physical evidence? do you want us to provide you a photo picture of God Almighty smiling at you? on that case we cannot provide you one.
Mr. Paras' comments? What's it all about? Ahhhh the airplane and intelligent design. Hmmmmmm...conscience? The concept of conscience is too relative to become a proof of the existence of a singular god. Culture dictates conscience. Education, doctrines and propaganda can affect someones conscience. According to Thomas Aquinas, conscience is connected to the rational faculty and if this rational faculty is corrupted, conscience is no longer reliable.
Let's talk about faith. According to Jun Paras, "Faith is not being exempted in believing in God, atheist have no faith (good faith). They rely on things which are seen, if you shown to them what they want to see, then that is, for them, a valid proof/evidence that God exists."
For a theist talking about atheism and faith, this is hilarious.
Anyway, atheists also have faith...but not religious faith. Faith is the confident belief in the truth of or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. That doesn't mean being religious does it? I have faith that the Sun will rise on the east and set in the west tomorrow. That's faith. I still have faith with the Philippine Constitution and the Philippine Supreme Court...That's faith. Faith is synonymous with trust .
Atheist doesn't only rely on what is seen because we must note that the non-existence of something doesn't only fall on empirical evidences but also in logical conclusions. For example, I can say that a two-dimentional square triangle doesn't exist not because I haven't seen one but because a triangle cannot become a square base on logical contradictions.
Now the idea of a disembodied mind is cool...if you're into science fiction. But unfortunately, no believer can still prove the existence of a mind independent with a material brain.
Jun Paras continues,"There are things unseen but you are forced to believe. And there are things that man cannot make, and man cannot reached by his knowledge. The atheist character is like a child that questions his parents even to the things that beyond his boundary or beyond his level, and he will believe if it will explained totally, else, he will not believe. But, a loving parent to his child doesn’t explain all things to his child because it is not of his capacity or maybe it will harm his child. If God explains to you all of these things, do you think you could input these in your little tiny head."
This is a typical Christian escape route. That God is beyond human understanding and reason. God is unknowable or beyond human knowledge. This is a sharp fall to theistic agnosticism. But may I ask, If Jun Paras is human and God is beyond human knowledge, then why is he explaing the existence of a god in the first place? Why do he know that there is a god?
Funny isn't it?
Do you want to give me a picture of god @ Dmitri? You can't take a picture of something that doesn't exist.
Have a nice day.
John the Atheist